tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181862.post116306479127325545..comments2023-10-24T20:37:11.842+13:00Comments on The Probligo: More thoughts on justice and punishment...The probligohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17882103150181414348noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181862.post-1163571578140822782006-11-15T19:19:00.000+13:002006-11-15T19:19:00.000+13:00From Bob (of LibertyBob fame) comes this comment -...From Bob (of LibertyBob fame) comes this comment -<BR/><BR/>"Good posting!<BR/><BR/> <BR/><BR/>You’re right about needing to focus on keeping kids from becoming criminals. I don’t know about New Zealand , but we have some serious problems here. Many kids tell their parents that the parent can do nothing to punish them or the kid will call the Department of Human Services. Historically, DHS hasThe probligohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17882103150181414348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181862.post-1163566506623860582006-11-15T17:55:00.000+13:002006-11-15T17:55:00.000+13:00I will confess that I despair of any "justice" sys...I will confess that I despair of any "justice" system that will work in this world.<BR/><BR/>Re the point on "parental education".<BR/><BR/>When I was at school, yr 5 or 6 thereabouts (man, don't that make me sound OLD!!!) I spent an afternoon a fortnight learning woodworking... how to cut with a saw, how to use a hammer, how to plan and measure materials, how to use a plane... That part ofThe probligohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17882103150181414348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181862.post-1163526255184136662006-11-15T06:44:00.000+13:002006-11-15T06:44:00.000+13:00Seems like a catch-22. You make it clear that you...Seems like a catch-22. You make it clear that you think that parents, not society, needs to be responsible for instilling basic values in their children, but you want the education system to instill basic values in parents. If the later worked, you wouldn't require the parents to do so in the first place.<BR/><BR/>NZ does not have the second largest prisoner per capita, it is #55. It might be Dave Justushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04139807963654242625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181862.post-1163446894278074362006-11-14T08:41:00.000+13:002006-11-14T08:41:00.000+13:00On a per head population basis, NZ has the second...On a per head population basis, NZ has the second highest prison population in the world - after the US.<BR/><BR/>That is the consequence of law changes made progressively since the mid '90s; the time that the SST has been operating.<BR/><BR/>As an aside, the power for longer sentences has always been there, particularly for those convicted of multiple crimes. If a guy commits 17 burglaries,The probligohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17882103150181414348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181862.post-1163443620810816392006-11-14T07:47:00.000+13:002006-11-14T07:47:00.000+13:00"How about some sensible, workable, suggestions on..."How about some sensible, workable, suggestions on how it can be stopped?"<BR/><BR/>Isn't one sensible, workable solution locking violent criminals up longer and being less eager to grant them bail or parole? <BR/><BR/>Obviously it wouldn't solve everything, but it seems like it could be a start.Dave Justushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04139807963654242625noreply@blogger.com